Video Games

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:41 pm

I don't understand why Unreal Tournament 3 got ragged on like it did.

It's not the original Unreal Tournament, sure. But it's still a damn awesome FPS. For some reason no one wants to play it though and it's hard to find a server with actual people on it. What happened? Has this type of FPS fallen out of favor or something?

MGuy · Post by **MGuy** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:20 pm

Halo, CoD, blah blah blah overshadow old faves like Unreal.
Ah how could I forget things like Team Fortress 2?!

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:25 am

Call of Duty was why I was wondering if the FPS style of Unreal Tournament has fallen out of favor.

I mean, I've played Call of Duty 4. I liked it a lot, and I'm looking forward to Modern Warfare 2. But it's absolutely nothing like Unreal Tournament (and neither is Team Fortress 2).

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:10 am

Maybe because the majority of games released over the ten million dollar range were FPS games, and purchased by the same demographic.

There are only so many FPSers to go around, you're getting spread thin.

-Crissa

Morzas · Post by **Morzas** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:16 am

I think today's gamers just don't like fast-paced Deathmatch games anymore, a lot of them have grown up on team-based "realistic" tactical shooters like CS and whatnot.

cthulhu · Post by **cthulhu** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:38 am

Surgo wrote:I don't understand why Unreal Tournament 3 got ragged on like it did.

It's not the original Unreal Tournament, sure. But it's still a damn awesome FPS. For some reason no one wants to play it though and it's hard to find a server with actual people on it. What happened? Has this type of FPS fallen out of favor or something?

Because UT favours duel games, and it's a shit duel game.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:44 am

Surgo wrote:I don't understand why Unreal Tournament 3 got ragged on like it did.

I'm not sure if I do either.

It may suffer the same problems of other UT games, in that it's basically nothing more than a tiny incremental improvement. But that never bothered anyone (other than me) before now. And it is the best of the batch of tiny incremental improvements.

It even agrees to run without major issues on my computer, something which other editions for inexplicable reasons have historically refused to do.

Maybe it's really transfered hate for it's evil online activation bullshit where I have to create and log into an online account to even be able to save my fucking single player campaign progress.

Indeed I played it at a lan recently using my purchased copy and people couldn't even change from the default player name without having an online account, so it was just my username vs a bunch of indistinguishable "Player"s. Sort of like "well let you use this at LANs but not without saying "FUCK YOU!"". That sort of shit has GOT to hurt sales for a largely social game.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:07 am

Yeah, software and media that requires online access to use features which are local is a really dumb idea and seriously hurts sales.

You may have hit the nail on the head.

-Crissa

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:24 pm

I've been playing lots of Mario Galaxy lately. I actually managed to get all 120 stars and I'm replaying as Luigi now. good times.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:11 pm

I watched the demo version of Super Mario Galaxy 2. The first one doesn't particularly impress me, but the sequel looks amazing.

Ganbare Gincun · Post by **Ganbare Gincun** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:52 pm

Crissa wrote:Yeah, software and media that requires online access to use features which are local is a really dumb idea and seriously hurts sales.

I sure wish that Blizzard would recognize this...

MGuy · Post by **MGuy** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:12 pm

Blizzard doesn't even know how to be punctual (Starcraft 2 Rage)

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:22 am

I didn't get Starcraft 2. What's up with it?

-Crissa

MGuy · Post by **MGuy** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:26 am

No one has it because it isn't out yet. Delay delay delay delay and now that it actually IS done its being delayed so they can get Battle.net 2.0 up.

RandomCasualty2 · Post by **RandomCasualty2** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:55 am

MGuy wrote:Blizzard doesn't even know how to be punctual (Starcraft 2 Rage)

I'm entirely unsurprised. Blizzard took forever releasing original SC, and even the Brood War expansion. If one thing is for certain, they really take their time on their RTS.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:50 am

See: "When It's Done"

Cielingcat · Post by **Cielingcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:14 am

http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon

Neeeek · Post by **Neeeek** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:56 am

RandomCasualty2 wrote:
MGuy wrote:Blizzard doesn't even know how to be punctual (Starcraft 2 Rage)
I'm entirely unsurprised. Blizzard took forever releasing original SC, and even the Brood War expansion. If one thing is for certain, they really take their time on their RTS.

I'm not even unsurprised. I expect that everything Blizzard announces will be out over a year later than planned.

Just tag an extra year to your expected release date, and you'll get less angry. No big deal.

MGuy · Post by **MGuy** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:00 am

If only it were just an extra year instead of what? going on 5 or 6 now?

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:38 pm

Well, Blizzard did nuke the dev lab 3 years ago that developed StarCraft, which was okay by my, I didn't like the guys. Also, they have limits on the amount of money they're allowed to spend outside of WoW - WoW's unexpected costs in support once it was out canceled several of their plans to move developers to new projects.

SC 2 is very important to their position in Asia, so they focus very closely on it. But has it been given a release date? I thought it had...

Anyhow, the bigger your pile of money gets the more people who get to have veto say in how it is spent. Which often means delays and cancels instead of releases. Bad releases kill a franchise, but cancels seem to do less damage... But it seriously dispirits core fans and devs.

-Crissa

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:09 pm

I was quite enthusiastic about Starcraft 2 until I heard it needed online activation. I rarely play multiplayer games and the gaming PC is generally completely without an Internet connection. Of course, since Left 4 Dead killed the PC, I don't really have to worry about that for a while. I'll just have to use something for a sci-fi mass combat minigame.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:33 pm

I know I've been bitching a lot about Chrono Cross but I do have to admit that it brought me some joy.

One of my buds was asking for a list of DS games that he should get and the Chrono Trigger remake came up.

Me: I really think you should get that way. They introduce a totally awesome plot point from Chrono Cross into it.
George: *eyetwitch* Oh really? What was it?
Me: You remember the Fall of Guardia?
George: Yeah?
Me: Well, it turns out that the person who kills Chrono and Marle then overthrows their kingdom is none other than Dalton.
George: ARGHFAMOTHERFUCKERDALTON--*unintelligible gibberish*

It doesn't take much to warm the cockles of my black, salt-packed heart.

MGuy · Post by **MGuy** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:18 pm

*never played chrono cross but played chrono trigger* WHAT?! Dalton did WHAT?!

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:35 pm

Here's what Dalton did, MGuy:

Crono and Marle get killed in the future (offscreen of course because Chrono Cross sucks monkey fuck) after the fall of the capital Guardia. In the Chrono Trigger DS remake it's revealed that Dalton is raising a secret army to assault Guardia. Put two and two together.

MGuy · Post by **MGuy** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:55 am

Bull shit I whooped his ass so easy in every fight then they just have him gain bad ass levels off screen to make a come back? Hell I barely even remember him as a character much less an actual threat! [/rant]